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		<title>By: Capitalist in Chief</title>
		<link>http://socialismdoesntwork.com/denmark-is-no-proof-that-socialism-is-good/comment-page-1/#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>Capitalist in Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there are advantages, as long as you keep Denmark&#039;s population restricted to a small homogeneous bunch that&#039;s been indoctrinated into socialism, and as long as you remain a good little citizen and do exactly what you&#039;re told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there are advantages, as long as you keep Denmark&#8217;s population restricted to a small homogeneous bunch that&#8217;s been indoctrinated into socialism, and as long as you remain a good little citizen and do exactly what you&#8217;re told.</p>
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		<title>By: Marthinus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marthinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socialism is based on non-materialism. The focus is on job-satisfaction and security not on who can buy a Porsche first. The value of money is relative to what you do with it. FYI: Socialism and Communism is not synonymous. A simple wiki search would teach you that. Your getting confused because Communist Russia called themselves that as a ploy to get people to believe they have the interest of the masses at heart. Traditionally socialism refers to the concept that work force should decide what happens within the country. Furthermore socialism and a democracy are not mutually exclusive terms. I suggest next time before you start a website and make a Fool of yourself you do little better research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Socialism is based on non-materialism. The focus is on job-satisfaction and security not on who can buy a Porsche first. The value of money is relative to what you do with it. FYI: Socialism and Communism is not synonymous. A simple wiki search would teach you that. Your getting confused because Communist Russia called themselves that as a ploy to get people to believe they have the interest of the masses at heart. Traditionally socialism refers to the concept that work force should decide what happens within the country. Furthermore socialism and a democracy are not mutually exclusive terms. I suggest next time before you start a website and make a Fool of yourself you do little better research.</p>
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		<title>By: Capitalist in Chief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capitalist in Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is is really worth your time to write such a blasphemous and biased article.. the first link I clicked provided by the author proved his statement leading to the fact wrong. Thus, I read no more.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This article was written in 2010, the figures on Wikipedia have changed since then.  It&#039;s certainly not worth my time to constantly monitor the minute figures just to satisfy the likes of you. 

Of course you conveniently missed the following sentence 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Under the Danish tax system, therefore, it is perfectly conceivable for a high-wage earner to pay out up to 51.5% of their total income after Gross Tax, giving a total of 57% of the total income.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So it&#039;s not 63%, it&#039;s 57%.  That is still very high, and it&#039;s still not just the &quot;rich&quot; that pay those taxes.  And on top of that you have the lovely %25 value added tax that effectively reduces one&#039;s income by that figure.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, 5 million people are not “two men named Bjorn”, Probably should have stopped there. Boo on you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Obviously the concept of exaggeration to make a point in humor escapes you.  The USA is still more than 60 times the size of Denmark, a small homogeneous country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is is really worth your time to write such a blasphemous and biased article.. the first link I clicked provided by the author proved his statement leading to the fact wrong. Thus, I read no more.</p></blockquote>
<p>This article was written in 2010, the figures on Wikipedia have changed since then.  It&#8217;s certainly not worth my time to constantly monitor the minute figures just to satisfy the likes of you. </p>
<p>Of course you conveniently missed the following sentence </p>
<blockquote><p>Under the Danish tax system, therefore, it is perfectly conceivable for a high-wage earner to pay out up to 51.5% of their total income after Gross Tax, giving a total of 57% of the total income.</p></blockquote>
<p>So it&#8217;s not 63%, it&#8217;s 57%.  That is still very high, and it&#8217;s still not just the &#8220;rich&#8221; that pay those taxes.  And on top of that you have the lovely %25 value added tax that effectively reduces one&#8217;s income by that figure.</p>
<blockquote><p>Also, 5 million people are not “two men named Bjorn”, Probably should have stopped there. Boo on you.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obviously the concept of exaggeration to make a point in humor escapes you.  The USA is still more than 60 times the size of Denmark, a small homogeneous country.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I do live in Denmark at the moment, and hopefully will NEVER go back to the &quot;good ole&quot; US as people here aren&#039;t whining about the tax, the only place I have heard that was &quot;back home&quot;, there are far more advantages here outweighing worrying about the few people who chose to not work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I do live in Denmark at the moment, and hopefully will NEVER go back to the &#8220;good ole&#8221; US as people here aren&#8217;t whining about the tax, the only place I have heard that was &#8220;back home&#8221;, there are far more advantages here outweighing worrying about the few people who chose to not work.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sum of all tax percentages (municipal tax, state taxes and health care contribution) cannot exceed 51.5.

Is is really worth your time to write such a blasphemous and biased article.. the first link I clicked provided by the author proved his statement leading to the fact wrong. Thus, I read no more. Also, 5 million people are not &quot;two men named Bjorn&quot;, Probably should have stopped there. Boo on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sum of all tax percentages (municipal tax, state taxes and health care contribution) cannot exceed 51.5.</p>
<p>Is is really worth your time to write such a blasphemous and biased article.. the first link I clicked provided by the author proved his statement leading to the fact wrong. Thus, I read no more. Also, 5 million people are not &#8220;two men named Bjorn&#8221;, Probably should have stopped there. Boo on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Capitalist in Chief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capitalist in Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well the one thing I can say about Denmark is that they have the second least corrupt government in the world.  Perhaps that&#039;s because they don&#039;t have 1% of the population, in their country, controlling 40% of the nation&#039;s wealth which they use to bribe and corrupt the politicians with.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And perhaps it&#039;s because they&#039;re a very small homogeneous society that doesn&#039;t let immigrants from all over the world in on the gig.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Medical bills is the #1 cause of personal bankruptcy in the US.  Luckily, because they have universal health care, the Danes don&#039;t have to worry about that.  Actually, neither does 99% of the industrialized world.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, in most of the industrialized world, the government pays for basic care, but if it gets too expensive, they just say sorry, it&#039;s not worth it for us to treat you.  And then if you don&#039;t have private insurance as well, you&#039;re out of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well the one thing I can say about Denmark is that they have the second least corrupt government in the world.  Perhaps that&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t have 1% of the population, in their country, controlling 40% of the nation&#8217;s wealth which they use to bribe and corrupt the politicians with.</p></blockquote>
<p>And perhaps it&#8217;s because they&#8217;re a very small homogeneous society that doesn&#8217;t let immigrants from all over the world in on the gig.</p>
<blockquote><p>Medical bills is the #1 cause of personal bankruptcy in the US.  Luckily, because they have universal health care, the Danes don&#8217;t have to worry about that.  Actually, neither does 99% of the industrialized world.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, in most of the industrialized world, the government pays for basic care, but if it gets too expensive, they just say sorry, it&#8217;s not worth it for us to treat you.  And then if you don&#8217;t have private insurance as well, you&#8217;re out of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Genocide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genocide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the one thing I can say about Denmark is that they have the second least corrupt government in the world.  Perhaps that&#039;s because they don&#039;t have 1% of the population, in their country, controlling 40% of the nation&#039;s wealth which they use to bribe and corrupt the politicians with.  Medical bills is the #1 cause of personal bankruptcy in the US.  Luckily, because they have universal health care, the Danes don&#039;t have to worry about that.  Actually, neither does 99% of the industrialized world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the one thing I can say about Denmark is that they have the second least corrupt government in the world.  Perhaps that&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t have 1% of the population, in their country, controlling 40% of the nation&#8217;s wealth which they use to bribe and corrupt the politicians with.  Medical bills is the #1 cause of personal bankruptcy in the US.  Luckily, because they have universal health care, the Danes don&#8217;t have to worry about that.  Actually, neither does 99% of the industrialized world.</p>
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		<title>By: Capitalist in Chief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capitalist in Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Baha, someone’s probably already said this in the above messages but you are an idiot.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It somehow always turns out that those who call me an idiot make the most idiotic remarks themselves.  It&#039;s just the strangest thing.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I vote you go live on an island so you can be an independent individual and only care about yourself like you want.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m really glad you&#039;re not in charge then.  How do you figure I care only about myself?

&lt;blockquote&gt;And I love how you say material things are expensive, oh no not the material things! Screw healthcare, perfect public transportation, clean facilities, public assistance and other benefits&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s funny how you say that I care only about material things, but not other things, and then your examples are material things that require money to provide.  Healthcare, public transportation, clean facilities, are all material things that require money.  Public assistance, I don&#039;t know what you mean here.  Assistance in what?  Paying for things that cost money?

&lt;blockquote&gt;smarter, healthier, less crime, less pollution, list goes on….&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I agree, on average yes.  They have a different population from the United States, which is composed of a much wider cultural and racial cross section of the world.  Did you even read the article before calling me an idiot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Baha, someone’s probably already said this in the above messages but you are an idiot.</p></blockquote>
<p>It somehow always turns out that those who call me an idiot make the most idiotic remarks themselves.  It&#8217;s just the strangest thing.</p>
<blockquote><p>I vote you go live on an island so you can be an independent individual and only care about yourself like you want.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m really glad you&#8217;re not in charge then.  How do you figure I care only about myself?</p>
<blockquote><p>And I love how you say material things are expensive, oh no not the material things! Screw healthcare, perfect public transportation, clean facilities, public assistance and other benefits</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how you say that I care only about material things, but not other things, and then your examples are material things that require money to provide.  Healthcare, public transportation, clean facilities, are all material things that require money.  Public assistance, I don&#8217;t know what you mean here.  Assistance in what?  Paying for things that cost money?</p>
<blockquote><p>smarter, healthier, less crime, less pollution, list goes on….</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree, on average yes.  They have a different population from the United States, which is composed of a much wider cultural and racial cross section of the world.  Did you even read the article before calling me an idiot?</p>
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		<title>By: Capitalist in Chief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capitalist in Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But I respect your opinion, although I consider it hugely flawed. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t see how you could think that it&#039;s hugely flawed since you mostly agree with me.  I don&#039;t argue that Denmark is a bad place, just &quot;that Denmark Is no proof that socialism Is good.&quot;  You yourself agree that Denmark possesses certain qualities that make it an outlier, and that the system in Denmark would not work in the general case. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;And with regards to freedom and taxes, if you checked other statistics, you would also see, that DK is one of the countries in which citizens are the most happy to pay their taxes (huge as they are). I gladly do, because it gives me the freedom and insurance of knowing, that if I or my family ever get sick, that there’ll be no huge bills to pay, and that we’ll be taken care of – that the government will pay for the best treatment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;for what? the newest edition of a macbookpro and some such?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I don&#039;t know, personally I&#039;d like to use the extra money to start a business and invest so that I could work more on things I enjoy rather than those that other people want to pay me for.  Why would you assume that the only thing one can do with more money is buy better electronics?

But also, yes, the newest edition of a MacBook Pro.  The faster my computer, the more productive I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But I respect your opinion, although I consider it hugely flawed. </p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how you could think that it&#8217;s hugely flawed since you mostly agree with me.  I don&#8217;t argue that Denmark is a bad place, just &#8220;that Denmark Is no proof that socialism Is good.&#8221;  You yourself agree that Denmark possesses certain qualities that make it an outlier, and that the system in Denmark would not work in the general case. </p>
<blockquote><p>And with regards to freedom and taxes, if you checked other statistics, you would also see, that DK is one of the countries in which citizens are the most happy to pay their taxes (huge as they are). I gladly do, because it gives me the freedom and insurance of knowing, that if I or my family ever get sick, that there’ll be no huge bills to pay, and that we’ll be taken care of – that the government will pay for the best treatment.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>for what? the newest edition of a macbookpro and some such?</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, personally I&#8217;d like to use the extra money to start a business and invest so that I could work more on things I enjoy rather than those that other people want to pay me for.  Why would you assume that the only thing one can do with more money is buy better electronics?</p>
<p>But also, yes, the newest edition of a MacBook Pro.  The faster my computer, the more productive I am.</p>
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		<title>By: the Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>the Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 13:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m a Dane too, and sure there are problems in Denmark, but none that I don&#039;t see worse in other places. I&#039;ve lived in many places around the world including the US for several years. Sure our average housesize is smaller than in the US, but if you looked at statistics (that weren&#039;t only in favor of your view) you would see, that it&#039;s only in the US and a couple of other countries, where the houses actually are bigger. (Not to mention that our population density is considerably higher than in the US).
 
And with regards to freedom and taxes, if you checked other statistics, you would also see, that DK is one of the countries in which citizens are the most happy to pay their taxes (huge as they are). I gladly do, because it gives me the freedom and insurance of knowing, that if I or my family ever get sick, that there&#039;ll be no huge bills to pay, and that we&#039;ll be taken care of - that the government will pay for the best treatment. 
Not to mention the freedom we have in being able to choose whatever education we wan&#039;t! And whatever you may say about comparisons of salaries, the salaries are still so high (everyone&#039;s), that we can travel and see the world. No one but people in top postions or that have good careres work for more than 37 hours a week, giving the ordinary person lots of time to spend with their families. (And familiy values is one of the few things that Oprah seemed to hit spot on - for most Danes eating supper together every night is very important). Not to mention the fact that no one needs to starve or sleep in the streets.

I&#039;m not going to say however, that our system would work out succesfully in the US though. Because you&#039;re right when you say there is a huge difference in the populations. Denmark IS a small country with a very homogeneous population. But I would still want to live in the DK, with the possibilities and (real) freedoms we have, that I consider far greater, than the (in my case very likely) possibility, that my salary would be considerably higher in the US. (But as to us owning less material property - I mean everybody has several laptops and most people have smartphones and all that - I don&#039;t think people mean they really lack anything of importance - and most people certainly wouldn&#039;t trade the econmic and social stability they have in the DK, for what? the newest edition of a macbookpro and some such? - if we assume they would be better of in the US)

But I respect your opinion, although I consider it hugely flawed. 

Best regards

(Sorry for any misspellings, it was written in rather a hurry)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m a Dane too, and sure there are problems in Denmark, but none that I don&#8217;t see worse in other places. I&#8217;ve lived in many places around the world including the US for several years. Sure our average housesize is smaller than in the US, but if you looked at statistics (that weren&#8217;t only in favor of your view) you would see, that it&#8217;s only in the US and a couple of other countries, where the houses actually are bigger. (Not to mention that our population density is considerably higher than in the US).</p>
<p>And with regards to freedom and taxes, if you checked other statistics, you would also see, that DK is one of the countries in which citizens are the most happy to pay their taxes (huge as they are). I gladly do, because it gives me the freedom and insurance of knowing, that if I or my family ever get sick, that there&#8217;ll be no huge bills to pay, and that we&#8217;ll be taken care of &#8211; that the government will pay for the best treatment.<br />
Not to mention the freedom we have in being able to choose whatever education we wan&#8217;t! And whatever you may say about comparisons of salaries, the salaries are still so high (everyone&#8217;s), that we can travel and see the world. No one but people in top postions or that have good careres work for more than 37 hours a week, giving the ordinary person lots of time to spend with their families. (And familiy values is one of the few things that Oprah seemed to hit spot on &#8211; for most Danes eating supper together every night is very important). Not to mention the fact that no one needs to starve or sleep in the streets.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to say however, that our system would work out succesfully in the US though. Because you&#8217;re right when you say there is a huge difference in the populations. Denmark IS a small country with a very homogeneous population. But I would still want to live in the DK, with the possibilities and (real) freedoms we have, that I consider far greater, than the (in my case very likely) possibility, that my salary would be considerably higher in the US. (But as to us owning less material property &#8211; I mean everybody has several laptops and most people have smartphones and all that &#8211; I don&#8217;t think people mean they really lack anything of importance &#8211; and most people certainly wouldn&#8217;t trade the econmic and social stability they have in the DK, for what? the newest edition of a macbookpro and some such? &#8211; if we assume they would be better of in the US)</p>
<p>But I respect your opinion, although I consider it hugely flawed. </p>
<p>Best regards</p>
<p>(Sorry for any misspellings, it was written in rather a hurry)</p>
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