May
02

Myth: Socialism and Communism Are Very Different Things

By Capitalist in Chief

Modern socialists would like to distance themselves from communism because of its bad reputation and often claim that communism is unrelated to socialism or at best tenuously related, but this is not the case.

Numerous people have come to this site and complained about its logo because it contains a communist symbol, which according to them, has barely anything to do with socialism, or perhaps nothing at all.

Let’s see indeed what are the differences between socialism and communism…

From the Encyclopedia Britanica’s online entry on communism:

the political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates. Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx.

(I added the bolding.)

Communism is thus a form of socialism, and its distinction rests mostly on its revolutionary tactics.

Let’s see what Britanica has to say about Karl Marx, the father of communism:

revolutionary, sociologist, historian, and economist. He published (with Friedrich Engels) Manifest der Kommunistischen Partei (1848), commonly known as The Communist Manifesto, the most celebrated pamphlet in the history of the socialist movement. He also was the author of the movement’s most important book, Das Kapital. These writings and others by Marx and Engels form the basis of the body of thought and belief known as Marxism.

(Again, I added the bolding.)

So the Communist Manifesto is “the most celebrated pamphlet in the history of the socialist movement.” If communism were only scantly related to socialism, Karl Marx would have pulled off quite an impossible feat writing a pamphlet on communism to become the most celebrated among those who believe something very different.

Modern socialists distance themselves from the revolutionary and dictatorial aspects of communism, but in fact, people who still support communism today do the same, claiming that what happened in the Soviet Union was not true communism.

In terms of implementation, all forms of socialism, communism included, seek to enact (1) strict government control and ownership of industry and (2) redistribution of wealth.

And they all fail due to exactly the same things, (1) their inability to efficiently and properly manage and allocate common resources and (2) their inherent disincentive for achievement.

In conclusion, communism and socialism work toward achieving the same ends. Only their methods of achieving those ends are different. Communism uses revolution, while socialism uses evolution, manipulating the system into accepting it over time.



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2 Comments

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The way I see it, socialism is any time the government takes over select industries when it is decided that those industries should be available to all people, rich or poor, for free with the funding of tax dollars. This has happened with the public school system, fire departments, parks and recreation, etc. Some things just make more sense to socialize, as you can do it cheaper without having it exclusive.

Many of us feel that this has not been applied broadly enough, and would like to expand it. That’s where the health care socialization comes in. Some of us believe the current bill doesn’t nearly go far enough and that the only real solution is a universal healthcare solution. To be honest, though, I’d just settle for regulating insurance companies to be not-for-profit.

Anyway, communism is the belief that government should control ALL commerce, down to newspaper stands. Every civilian is also an employee of the state. I don’t like this, because it creates basically one giant corporation that owns everyone in the country. It leads to totalitarianism and is just generally now how I envision a polite society forming.

Capitalism is the next thing down from communism, in my opinion, especially under a free market. Corporations buy and control us, and they can interfere with our lives greatly. Look at Haliburton, look at every lobbyist in Washington, look at Enron… I mean ask anyone from California during the whole Enron debacle and they’ll tell you how much a corporation can ruin your life.

Socialism, when done correctly and when allowed to work, flows WITH the market. It creates a stable (yet dynamic) minimum wage, and allows anyone to be as wealthy as they want to be, but only if society also gains from their wealth. After all why would society want to produce a wealthy powerful entity to live among it as a parasite to slowly degrade the society?

I am a socialist, because I believe in humanity.

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Capitalist in Chief
August 12th, 2010 at 1:11 am

This is one of the most sensible accounts coming from a socialist, but still extremely wrong!

Look at Haliburton, look at every lobbyist in Washington, look at Enron

All have to do with either using and abusing government power, or failure of government oversight mechanisms that already exist. What you’re describing is the phenomenon of “crony capitalism”, whose abuses grow with growing government power.

Socialism, when done correctly and when allowed to work…

Only that it’s just somehow never done correctly. The only socialism done correctly is a very minimalist socialism, otherwise its failures just make things worse.

…and allows anyone to be as wealthy as they want to be, but only if society also gains from their wealth. After all why would society want to produce a wealthy powerful entity to live among it as a parasite to slowly degrade the society?

There are many problems with this. Not the least of which is who decides what’s beneficial to society and why. I’ll bet that most of the time, whoever gets to decide will just happen to deem what’s good for society to be one and the same as what’s good for him. It’s human nature. One only needs to observe politics anywhere in the world to see that.

I am a socialist, because I believe in humanity.

I’m anti-socialist for the same reason.

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